Comments on: Where the HTML4.0 did they come from? http://www.mrspeaker.net/2005/10/09/html-tags/ Javascript flâneur, internet flibbertygibbert Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:22:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Petit http://www.mrspeaker.net/2005/10/09/html-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-184 Petit Sun, 05 Feb 2006 22:03:53 +0000 http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/90/#comment-184 <fieldset> <fieldset>

]]> By: Petit http://www.mrspeaker.net/2005/10/09/html-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-183 Petit Sun, 05 Feb 2006 22:03:02 +0000 http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/90/#comment-183 Interesting! And to hank: Really good use of Interesting!
And to hank: Really good use of

]]> By: Petit http://www.mrspeaker.net/2005/10/09/html-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-182 Petit Sun, 05 Feb 2006 21:57:18 +0000 http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/90/#comment-182 On the quote tag you note: "And Firefox doesn’t do the single quotes on nested comments". Well, you might have been right, but you now longer are. For your example, you state that you didn't put in the quote marks by hand. However Firefox 1.5 gives you the alternating double/single marks. There you go. As time passes, even if you tell the truth, you may be called a liar. On the quote tag you note: “And Firefox doesn’t do the single quotes on nested comments”.

Well, you might have been right, but you now longer are. For your example, you state that you didn’t put in the quote marks by hand. However Firefox 1.5 gives you the alternating double/single marks.

There you go. As time passes, even if you tell the truth, you may be called a liar.

]]> By: Inglorion http://www.mrspeaker.net/2005/10/09/html-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-186 Inglorion Mon, 09 Jan 2006 13:39:50 +0000 http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/90/#comment-186 Nice. They're all new to me as well, and it really surprises me that I haven't heard of fieldset and legend before or seen it in action--but I might have for all I know. Thanks. Nice. They’re all new to me as well, and it really surprises me that I haven’t heard of fieldset and legend before or seen it in action–but I might have for all I know.

Thanks.

]]> By: Ayyash http://www.mrspeaker.net/2005/10/09/html-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-187 Ayyash Tue, 20 Dec 2005 14:28:54 +0000 http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/90/#comment-187 Well, it may be so that you cannot find a real use of some tags, but a lot of people in different fields do, do not learn all HTML, only the part you need when you need it, i am sure one day, HTML will have tags to describe everything, and no, the way it looks has nothing to do with it, the way the browser understands it is all what matters, because you use an internet browser, there are braille browsers, PDA browsers, PRINTED output ... by having the right tags, it is going to be 10% of an effort to customize for other browsers... so "q" is going to be read by all browsers "even browser readers" as "quotation of somebody" ... "end quotation", the quotes are not the point! Well, it may be so that you cannot find a real use of some tags, but a lot of people in different fields do, do not learn all HTML, only the part you need when you need it, i am sure one day, HTML will have tags to describe everything, and no, the way it looks has nothing to do with it, the way the browser understands it is all what matters, because you use an internet browser, there are braille browsers, PDA browsers, PRINTED output … by having the right tags, it is going to be 10% of an effort to customize for other browsers… so “q” is going to be read by all browsers “even browser readers” as “quotation of somebody” … “end quotation”, the quotes are not the point!

]]> By: ross http://www.mrspeaker.net/2005/10/09/html-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-185 ross Mon, 19 Dec 2005 02:40:51 +0000 http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/90/#comment-185 OMG, I thought I knew every HTML tag in the knoen universe... but I was wrong ... very very wrong... I'm gonna start looking for a new line of work immediately... OMG, I thought I knew every HTML tag in the knoen universe… but I was wrong … very very wrong… I’m gonna start looking for a new line of work immediately…

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.mrspeaker.net/2005/10/09/html-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-189 Anonymous Tue, 11 Oct 2005 00:42:35 +0000 http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/90/#comment-189 Here was an interesting effort to fix up the <a href="http://diveintomark.org/archives/2002/05/04/the_q_tag" rel="nofollow">Q tag problem in IE</a> Here was an interesting effort to fix up the Q tag problem in IE

]]> By: hank http://www.mrspeaker.net/2005/10/09/html-tags/comment-page-1/#comment-188 hank Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:31:38 +0000 http://mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/90/#comment-188 Yes fine sir, <em>fieldset</em> is one of my favourite xHTML elements, along with its accompanying <em>legend</em>. Check out <a href="http://www.kfc.com.au/default.asp?page=/contact+us" rel="nofollow">KFC Australia's contact form</a>. Here fieldset is used to logically delineate discrete form components to the user, and it helps to present it in a way that is not just one big mean form. Further, in xHTML (I know you're talking about HTML 4 but really, who cares about that...) you need block elements within your form to <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A//mrspeaker.webeisteddfod.com/2005/10/09/html-tags/" rel="nofollow">validly</a> contain your labels and inputs, etc. Also, when you're like me and looking for as many semantically correct hooks to tie your CSS to, fieldset is a winner. Another interesting, ofttimes misused and obscure tag for you is the <em><a href="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/global.html#h-7.5.6" rel="nofollow">address</a></em> tag. It is not just used for any old address, but specifically for the contact details of the owner/publisher of the document. Yes fine sir, fieldset is one of my favourite xHTML elements, along with its accompanying legend. Check out KFC Australia’s contact form. Here fieldset is used to logically delineate discrete form components to the user, and it helps to present it in a way that is not just one big mean form. Further, in xHTML (I know you’re talking about HTML 4 but really, who cares about that…) you need block elements within your form to validly contain your labels and inputs, etc. Also, when you’re like me and looking for as many semantically correct hooks to tie your CSS to, fieldset is a winner.

Another interesting, ofttimes misused and obscure tag for you is the address tag. It is not just used for any old address, but specifically for the contact details of the owner/publisher of the document.

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